Kobra deep hollowing system Now that the owners of Monster Lathe Tools have gone on to other tasks in life, here is my follow-up question: What are your recommendations now for best hollowing system? My needs: I will put it on my future Grizzly 0766. MENU. Should you buy High Speed Steel (HSS) or Carbide Hollowing Tools I started reading last year about all sorts of hollowing systems and the one that just kept getting my attention was the Monster Hollowing System. Ask for Jerry Arnold. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. The Deep system has a 1. I'm seriously considering pulling the trigger on this. I have hollowed down to just shy of 14" deep and it had no flex in the 1" shaft I got with the system at this depth. Robert Sorby Rs2000 Deep Hollowing System Cutters from Westcountry Machinery 4 Wood. I am a firm believer in buying the best quality equipment one can find and not looking Elbo 2 Hollowing System features. system is in excellent condition (I’ve used it only one time). Skip to Main Content. llc. the Kobra and one offered by Trent Bosch. JPG, kobra-monster 012 (Small). Hollow Roller® lathe hollowing system for all size lathes and projects from mini to full size. Hollow Roller® Lathe Boring & Hollowing. Trusted By. Key Features. While I could probably go another inch deep by hand, got to say it wasn't exactly pleasurable hollowing it. Search for: Kobra Depp Hollowing. I know there is a price difference there is really no comparison. 0. Photo Gallery. Competitive Pricing Quality Service Extensive Stock Experienced Staff. Very Deep Hollowing Lyndal, Square stock is about 60-70 percent more rigid for the same relative size and material. The Hollow Roller allows turning of vessels up to around 14" and easily adaptable to most lathes on the This is a first cut at surveying the hollowing systems out there. 90. Online: [Bot] bingbot/2. I was going to order their 1" bar and some other cutters, but their web page is gone. I need to upgrade. Hollow Roller® Lathe Hollowing System (0-12" Depth or up to 18" with Large Bar add-on) Hollow Roller® Lathe Hollowing System (0-12" Depth or up to 18" with Large Bar add-on) The patented, made in the USA Hollow Roller® system is a captive If you want to go that deep, look at the system Steve Sinner sells: Advanced Lathe Tools. I have hollowed up to 13 1/2" deep with the Kobra to date. . It can be used with different types of cutting bars and Sam unboxes the Mike Mahoney Hollowing kit. Comes with parts seen, including laser guide. Joined Dec 11, 2009 Messages 20 Likes 97 Location Salt Lake City, Utah. For round stock the makers of the Kobra hollowing tool have determined that you need roughly 1" diameter per 15 inches when using round stock. I have If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Sign up. In the market for a Articulating Arm Hollowing System. Aug 15, 2013 #1 Does anyone know if this hollowing system is still in production? If so how can I contact the company to order one? Thanks • All full size Simple Woodturning Tools fit the Hollowing System. I've been using the Mini Monster Hollowing System for years with my smaller lathe and love it. Kobra Hollowing system. It works with silky smooth motion, stability and precise tool control giving you the Hollowing System I can't offer any comparative data but I have the Jamieson system and am very pleased with it. I've been hollowing free hand for a number of years now and fill that I'm getting the hang of it. Firstly, it is a very safe and effective means of hollowing deep vessels through narrow openings. Once set up it is quite maneuverable. Man - the only word that comes to mind is SMOOTH! He has since made a version of the system to fit on larger lathes and even though I already have the captured D-handle system I am seriously considering picking up the articulating system as well. I will post some photos when I get home in one week. Is the Kobra Hollowing System still available? Last posts I can find are almost 2 years old. There is a wait after you order one since they are My articulating system has a vertical pin for leverage so you can push with your hip against it. I have read many archive post. From $16. The Elbo 2 is by far the best hollowing system. au/woodturning0:43 The Bowl Gouge1:29 The Carbide Tipped Scraper2:07 Crown Revolution I am looking for someway to adapt a deep hollowing rig to my VB36 bowl lathe. I have a Kobra system and it is built like a if deep hollowing is your goal. Don Geiger Replacement parts for the Robert Sorby RS2000 Deep Hollowing System. My current hollowing "system" is a Sorby Hollow Master. My captive system does not a pin, thus your shoulder applies all the outward pressure. Deep hollowing is not one of the good points. His phone number is on his website. Shop. I have done some research & the ones that stand out to me are Kobra, Monster, Gizmo, and the new Carter. I was on the waiting list to purchase one for at least a year before they were no longer being manufactured. So I need some sage advice from those in the "know"! After narrowing down my options to either a Monster standard size articulated rig or a Carter Hollow Roller I am not quite sure which is the best choice. 5 inch bar which makes hollowing a joy! There is no vibration and leaves you in total control. As to the other systems I have to plead total ignorance as I have never seen any of them in use. You happened to pick the green mini Kobra to showcase on your website, but there is a Red Kobra which fits lathes from 16" to 26" swing and it is also shown on the CICAAW site. Thread starter Eldon DeHaan; Start date Aug 15, 2013; Eldon DeHaan. My captive system was homemade and thus a lot cheaper though. Looks interesting. Aug 12 Kobra contacts I don't believe Kobra has a web site. Theres one out there called a Kobra but its about the same price as the Monster. Used John Jordan 3/4" tool and it's about 9. and in the case of the Kobra a lot more so, Deep Hollowing System Cutters. I believe the Kobra was the most stable as the joints were a lot bigger in size. Turning. Has anyone or, does anyone, have or used the KOBRA Hollowing System?? I have seen some videos on YouTube and it seems like a very nice system. 5” diameter bars most people can go 12-14” deep . Before the Symposium I was able to try out the system of a fellow woodworker. A 24 inch bar or segmented bar with short uprights is shown here in a Jet desktop mini lathe with accompanying steady rest. Unfortunately, I don't think they are produced anymore. I think my needs are for about 12" deep. The best results are typically when you remove only about 1/16″ in each pass. I am told that the Kobra articulating system will go much deeper than the monster, but I've never even seen a Kobra system. I would appreciate any info Kobta Deep Hollowing System FS dick gerard see classified section for details. The problem is that the VB36 bowl lathe does not have a bed and all the systems I've seen mount on the bed. Inc VAT. Here's some shots of the Kobra and Monster side by side: kobra-monster 003 (Small). theokspindoctor. I've been surfing the forums looking at every bit of info on captive systems I can find. I have a Kobra hollowing system for sale. WHAT IS THE CUTTER MADE FROM? The cutter is made from M2 HSS. I looked and looked and wasn't really happy with anything I saw. Both seem to be of the highest quality and also seem to be very user friendly. 31 . System is in California and I can deliver it to the Tennessee area around the middle of October if someone is interested. Browse Oneway Easy Core Hollowing System and other wood turning tools. They work better for fine finish cuts than they do for heavy roughing. I do not need one of the specialized systems for 18" Tear Drop Scrapers for Kobra Hollowing System; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. The Monster system I used he removed the batteries from the laser and hooked up a power supply. It is useful It is a little cumbersome to set up but works well and with the 1 1/4" bar and available "fulcrum" upgrades is suited for deep hollowing. I will be able to see systems in KC. Thank you @tsdr. Joined Jan 20, 2006 Messages 2,052 Likes 392 Location Martinsville, VA. I might sell one of my quads today so I'm loking at other accessories that might useful in my quest for more tools. Just too much flex in the arms. Robert Sorby Excelsior Round End Swivel Tip Cutter TiN - While there he showed us the mini-articulated hollowing system he had just developed. How to Deep Hollowing, Advanced Wood Turning. JPG, kobra-monster 011 (Small). Got me thinking about I have the Monster and the Oneway systems and also the Carter Deep Hollowing system. Selling it for $800. Parts list, assembly and use of the Kobra deep hollowing system. :cool:Their website is www. The green unit fits See the Clark Deep Hollowing System in action complete with a Jet Mini Lathe. There are a couple of videos on Youtube that show how to set the system up and use it. Currently I have the wood cut tools pro form hollowing systems with a straight and bent shaft, I also use the irons gate tool rest and have an irons gate shear scraper so I'm looking for a set up that works with those tools. Kobta Deep Hollowing System FS. Thread starter Marty Purselley; Start date Aug 12, 2020; Status Not open for further replies. My current favorite is an expensive articulated arm system The Kobra is flex and chatter free down to 15" in depth according to everyone that has made a review on it and one turner Hollows up to 25" with it. £8. my goal is 25"deep are there any other systems out there that would work also. timbecon. I actually put thing in their cart. The Kobra The Monster did everything well down to about 12" deep. I use my home made steel snake and know that many here have the outstanding monster system. HOME Simple Scrapers Wood Tools Acrylic/Resin Tools Cutters Hollowing About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Most of the folks I know who do really deep forms use some kind of captured rig with big diameter bars. I am new to hollowing but not to turning & I have a Vicmarc 300 w/21" between center. Explore. If you're the maker of any of these systems and feel I've left something important out, or don't want your product on this site PLEASE - e-mail me. After looking around for the best captive system on the market for my needs which is up to 15" deep at this time I went with the Kobra system. It is one of the most common questions we get, but also one of the most difficult to answer. It’s Frustrating! Maybe, you’ve spent hours turning wood for finishing and hollowing. (SHS with laser and SSNH) : from my experience the SHS works on my lathe for vessels of up to 10 inches in diameter and 8 inches or so deep. Unfortunately, it seems to be no longer available. I show the steps and tools required for deep hollowing a I have spent so much on various handhold followers, I could have saved money by waiting and buying a hollowing system from monster or tools right now too If notice if you buy three hollowing tools at $100+ each (straight, shallow goose-neck, deep goose-neck), you Rick owns both the Kobra and Monster, as I recall, and When using a hollowing tool, it’s best not to go too deep into the wall of your object in one cut. is there any advantage between a round bar and square bar for hollowing,solid or tube. Any news? I'm doing a custom project using powered cutter in long hollowed pieces Parts list, assembly and use of the Kobra deep hollowing system Hollowing of a 12 inch deep vessel on a wood lathe. I think for hollowing less than 12" deep Trent Bosch's setup would be excellent and an easier setup as it just drops into the banjo. I liked that it appeared to be very stout and that even though it attached to the bed of the lathe one could to some degree use it on a lathe with the headstock rotated (my lathe has a rotating headstock). 5" deep. This set-up will be used for hollow forms and deep bowls of about 8-12" in depth. It is the Kobra hollowing system, another take on articulated hollowing systems. I know a couple of people who have tried to The basic Kobra hollowing system consists of the four knuckles and a mounting post, the mounting ring and rectangular plate which sit directly on the lathe bed, and a Kobra hollower for sale. that brings me to my question, which one does what better, let me also say that i'm not really looking to do real Simple Hollowing System - Accepts All Carbide Simple Woodturning Tools. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Does anyone on SMC have a Clark Hollowing system? I searched Kobra and it was featured on a site with some of the systems some of you have Jerry, I have both the Clark deep hollowing setup and a Kobra articulated hollowing rig. Monster is no longer in business, so finding one of their full sized systems is probably not gonna happen. This system gets excellent reviews from folks here. With the bushing, you can also use any of the mid - size simple woodturning tools in this hollowing system. :) Thanks, Bruce Kobra test run! I've been hollowing free hand for a number of years now and decided it was time to look for a good hollowing system. The green unit fits Kobra hollowing system . Personally I like more links in the articulated system like the Kobra, to get in and you might look at the Gizmo articulating hollowing system from to 3/4" in diameter. The Kobra system is very much like free hand hollowing in that there is a handle that comes out to hold when hollowing. Reactions There were a one time Monster and Kobra rigs, but I don't believe The 3/16" cutter is perfect for deep hollowing and difficult wood. hollowing systems for your mini. i. 0. Just search for "Advanced Lathe Tools" and it will come right up. Any recommendations. Hi, I am about to pull the trigger on a hollowing rig for my Delta 46-460. However, you can contact them directly at: jatooling@yahoo. 2000 Loving this deep hollowing system #deephollowing #largehollowform #openmouthhollow #woodturning #woodturners #steadyrest #mrlatheznknivez #woodturningandartllc. This Robert Sorby RS2000 Deep Hollowing System Cutters Please choose from options above . This is a discontinued line so the below options are all that is available for this system ; RS225 - Tee Knob 1/4" Reviews. But, no matter how much or how long you try it! The entire process becomes so much complex! Kobra Hollowing System. I'd really like something similar to it in design, but beefier, obviously. Wanting to hollow deeper got me looking at other systems. Jamieson has a proven system with good options. A 20 inch piece feels like a 4 inch piece on the other units. My Orders | Login. £0. 25 inch diameter 48 inch long hollowing bar. This is one of the earliest of the articulating arm hollowers and was over engineered. Steve does some awfully deep hollowing. Brass Tubes - 7mm. New media New comments. I hold it under my arm and hollow just like I do when free hand hollowing, but with no stress on my body. JT Turning makes an articulating system called the Gizmo that probably fits between the two I always say that there ain't one 'ultimate' deep hollowing tool. Marty Purselley. I do like my Monster. What are the pros and cons of the articulated system (Monster or similar) vs the captive system (Jamieson or similar). Log in. If you want the best deep hollowing system out there, just be patient. He's a one man shop. Woodturning > Woodturning Accessories and Cutter Tips > Deep Hollowing System Cutters. Cutters listed are compatible with the Robert Sorby RS2000 deep hollowing system. The Harrison specialty hollowing system for wood lathes can be used in this hollowingsystem and the simple interchangeable tool handle. So, from my experience the SHS works on my lathe for vessels of up to 10 inches in diameter and 8 inches or so deep. Topic information: User information Registered users online in this topic: 0, guests: 1. • Use any tool with a 1/2" round handle tang in this system. deep with the Kobra. 0; Oneway, Termite Complete Kit, End Grain Deep Hollowing Tool This item is in stock and ready Looking to buy a Kobra hollowing system for a 24” lathe. I know we have some engineering wizes out there. Joined Feb 26, 2019 Messages 2,036 Likes Al Crandal came up with his Kobra System. I would like to buy a hollowing system that would allow me to grow with it & not have to worry about buying another one in the future. ) for a man which is capable of hollowing 25 in. If you know of a hollowing Simple Hollowing System - Accepts All Simple Woodturning Tools. It depends on the type of wood, the kind of lathe, your experience and your patience. Something that does not extend far beyond the end of the lathe. Oneway, Cutter for Deep Hollowing This item is in stock and ready for immediate shipping from our warehouseOneway Replacement Cutter for 1" Boring Bar for Deep Hollowing. Purchasing by the summer. The problem is that I find myself getting beat up when I go past 10" deep with the free hand tools I have. JPG I am seriously looking at buying or making a hollowing system to ease the strain on my rapidly wearing out hands and shoulder. In stock and ready to ship. One can also use shorter bars depending on the the project. Doug Freeman. Take a look at Brian McAvoy's . My experiences with the Monster system tell me that they are fine for small forms, not more than about 6 inches deep, and can go a bit deeper but not much. Others Also Bought. Price was Hi everyone, I'm looking to upgrade my deep hollowing equipment and I'm looking for recommendations for a new system. :D Did I mention I'm a tool addict. 00 Thank you Pedro The hollowing system stabilizes and guides woodturning tools while hollowing and finishing. Many of these cutters are also suitable for other tools, please see individual item descriptions for more information. Most people will be able to hollow 9 inches deep relatively easily with the standard 5/8” bars. Adaptors for your favorite 3/8”, ½” and 5/8” hollowing bars; Hollow up to 12” deep (dependent on wood, cutter and the skill of the turner) Elbo 2 I use to use them up to 12" deep and could feel the abuse to my arms for a day or two after hollowing these deeper forms free hand. ( 1 1/2 dia. See options. Pricing Inc VAT Exc VAT. With 3/4” bars most people can go 9”-10” deep With 1. But I can't find much specific praise for it besides the fact that there are no aftermarket add-ons one has to purchase; it comes complete. It comes I purchased the Lyle Jamieson hollowing system about 12 yrs ago and am completely satisfied. I would be happy to try and answer any questions that you have. com. It is no longer available new. Robert Sorby Domed and Hollow Chattertool Cutter HSS - RS221. You can see photos and a descripton at www. Hi folks: I am exploring adding a hollowing system to my lathe. This flexible system can be used in a number of modes. I've looked at videos that explain the D-way, the Lyle Jamison and the Trent Bosh hollowing systems. It is a major investment but Watching the Kobra video on setup, it looked quite tedious. I have a Powermatic 3520b standard bed. I wonder it there is a more I own a Gizmo hollowing system from JT Turning Tools and like it a lot. You have to call him is you want one. Who hollowed a 13" deep piece of holly last night to +/- 1/4" with his hand held boring bar, I wanted a hollowing system. My understanding, from people who have tried both, is that it's more heavy duty than the Monster system. As far as hollowing rigs, it depends on how big your going. Now, I need a full sized system for my big General 26020 lathe. Australiana Elegant Beauty. Just my nickel's worth (2 cents adjusted for inflation). I eventually ended up with the Simon Hope system. I also see You happened to pick the green mini Kobra to showcase on your website, but there is a Red Kobra which fits lathes from 16" to 26" swing and it is also shown on the CICAAW site. The Oneway is easier to set up and learn to use and I can core out up to about 18" bowls. com I think. I put new HOW DEEP CAN I HOLLOW USING THIS SYSTEM? How deep you can go is a hard question to answer. If you want a hollowing system NOW and can't wait, then you'll have to settle for lesser quality. It is easy to set up, easy to use, and folds up nicely for storage. Another hollowing system-link; If this is your first visit, What do you get when you combine Carter and Son quality and Mike Mahoney’s innovation? A world class woodturning hollowing system that puts the craftsmanship and art back into Short video demonstrating the Kobra Hollowing System and the addition of a camera in place of the laser that came with the system. Because you are designing it around your own lathe, the setup should be a little easier. The Clark Deep Hollowing System (US patent 7,191,689 B2) and companion Clark Steady Rest can be used on the smallest projects up to the largest that will fit on your lathe. I know the Carter has about a 7" I need some advice on buying a large hollowing system, I have checked the carter XL and the jamieson custom made with 2" boaring bar. 95. I still free turn anything less than 9" deep since I like the feel of free turning. john lucas >In the Indy Fest we got the chance to see and try out the new Kobra hollowing system that Jerry, Al, and Dewayne have developed. Joined Nov 1, 2008 Messages 36 Likes 2 Location Aledo, Texas. Home Decor. He takes a look at the individual components of this hollowing system and then proceeds to turn a hollow form sho I have the Vicmarc articulated arm hollowing system and am very happy with its performance. Still looking to this day. Let me know if you have one that you would be so kind to part with. com or call: 765-534-4437. (SHS with laser and SSCF (12")) : place. Bar thickness determines how deep you can go on either system. com It is a very heavy duty system with a 1. Welcome to the forum John, you might like to check out Brian McEvoy's web site One Good Turn as he has his deep hollowing system available at what appears to be a reasonable price in Canadian $. 07-02-2019, 6:40 PM #11. Charlie Knighton. Toggle menu (631) 975-2800. Woodturning tools and accessories:https://www. I decided after much research into the subject that the Kobra was the best one on the market for my needs. The tool is rock solid and can work on any length lathe. For deep work Clark and Sinner are also worth my Monster systems are the Buicks of hollowing systems but the Cadillac of hollowing systems is Alan Trouts Pro-Rail Hollowing System. The RS2000 System is a tried and trusted method of deep vessel hollowing. Index. • Mid size tools can be used with the available additional . The 16" straight cutter arm allows you to hollow up to 12" deep. NOTE: The Clark Hollowing System is great for small lathes. For comparison purposes, using the 3/4" boring bar, what is the useful hollowing depth beyond the tool rest of the individual Coring and hollowing I have owned and used both the McNaughton and Oneway coring systems and much prefer the Oneway. Forums. I give instructions for more advanced wood turning. I am leaning towards one of the captured or articulated systems; but it looks like some of the captured systems need a long bed on the lathe. The Oneway Laser-Guided Hollowing System has been designed i have the bug to get a monster tool hollowing system and start taking on HF's, i really like the concept of the articulated arm one, but i've been reading and it sounds like a few people have both, because both have their own strengths and weeknesses. Home Maintenance. Woodworking Machinery > Power Tools > Hand Tools > Wood Turning > i know this is an age old thing. Never once have I had a problem and have turned wood down to as little as 1/16 of an inch with no problem. Started this hollow form without any thought of how large it was or how deep I'd have to go by hand. 00. jpg, kobra-monster 010 (Small). The entire simple hollowing system is made by Harrison specialty in the land of 10, 000 lakes, Minnesota. Besides this, what do fans of the system like about the Monster vis-a-vis other systems (which curiosly also have a lot of fans). This is the biggest advantage the Kobra For anything deeper than 8" I use the Kobra system and love it. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. New posts. More Clark Deep Hollowing System Ira, You might want to consider the "Clark Deep Hollowing System" and "Clark Steady Rest". Home Gadgets. At the The Kobra is/was the top of the heap for commercially available hollowing systems. Richard Madden. Bill. Very beefy and extremely smooth action. I am a firm believer in buying the best quality equipment one can find and not looking I've been hollowing free hand for a number of years now and fill that I'm getting the hang of it. I hollowed a 12" deep, 5" max diameter vase I saw the clark deep hollowing system while I was looking at their steady system. 01726 828 388. I have contacted Kobra, Monster,Jamieson, and Hegner - the manufacturer and noone has come up with any suggestions. $0. Was custom made for my Laguna 18/47 lathe (18" swing). Home Articles Blogs Comments Contests should read Kobra. To start viewing messages The original Elbo was the first hollowing system to use articuation and the Elbo 2 improves upon that design. The Oneway website has an excellent video. At this writing it remains unaccomplished, but I'm working on it.
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